Pet Memorials

[moshev]

I thought this might be helpful to someone.I am a member of a site known as Find A Grave. It is dedicated to placing virtual gravesites on the internet. Alot of it is devoted to famous celebrities and also for individuals who want to create a virtual site for their families and loved ones.You can even link those 'interred' to others who are interred.
In example:Someonce can mention who their parents,siblings were,etc.In this way you can build a genealogical structure if you want to.Posting of images of the interred as well as burial locations,etc. can be posted and bio's can be added as well.Even more interesting is that you can look up their places by a search engine as well as visit them and leave virtual flowers,icons,avatars and leave a comment of your own such as rest in peace,thinking of you,etc.
The Find A Grave site allows pet interments without question as long as you have the basic information such as name,date of birth and death,burial place etc.Anyone wanting to check the place out can do so at this link: www.findagrave.com/
If someone needs any help placing their pet in a virtual gravesite and wants me to help I would be happy to do this for them.Please
furnish me with the information and I will post it for you and leave a message after I have done so along with the link to the virtual gravesite.Of course this offer is if acceptable with the administrator of the site and the rest of the fine members of this forum.

[Die Fledermaus]

Hehehehe. . .

As most people on this site know, I am a long-term volunteer at Brooklyn's NATIONAL LANDMARK Green-Wood Cemetery, one of the oldest and most famous in the nation. I know it like the back of my hand. Besides the usual tours and presentations related to the cemetery we are concluding now a five year project to identify every Civil War veteran intered there. This mammoth task involved major search of government databases, the cemetery record books going back to the 1860's, searching every square foot of the almost 500 acre cemetery, and many other tasks.

This Memorial Day, besides the usual ceremonies and band concert, in the morning we will be dedicating thousands of new headstones many of which are already at the cemetery seny by the Veterans Administration.

As for findagrave.com, I am 'Zouave' on that site, and have contributed many photos; check them out by searching for my name there. I was honored to be the first person to add a photo of Bert Williams' grave at lovely Woodlawn Cemetery in the Bronx, NY. He was the great vaudeville star of a century ago.

Now, I did not know findagave had anything to do with animal virtual graves, although I have heard of sites the do. Tell us more about that, please.

And for everyone else, check out findagrave.com. Bet any famous person you can find is there. At Green-Wood we discovered the totally forgotten Capt. Cook who was with John Brown at Harpers Ferry.

Bet you didn't expect a cemetery expert to be here when you mentioned findagrave!

Anyway, tell us, again, more about pet virtual gravesites.

BTW, when you first posted this I feared something happened to Ebony or Ivory!


P.S. I have a lot of stuff up on Green-Wood (just Search for the name) including two long photo galleries from Spring about the ASPCA and their founder, Henry Bergh. That would be in the Animal News forum. Check them out! I also have photos, many at night, from the annual Halloween tours.

[moshev]

My two girls are just fine.I only mentioned this knowing full well how devastating it can be for someone to lose a pet.I read the fact that the findagrave site allows pet interrments on the Q&A section.I was quite suprised and did not have the rats and was not involved in any group forums at the time.I have a pet cemetary on my farm property at home and every animal has its own headstone.Guess having my own sandblasting set up gives me a bit of an advantage in that area.
In the past I have made stones for snakes,parrots,even mules. and it included images,etc.
Anyhow-back to Find A Grave. It was specifically mentioned that they welcome pet interments and only require basic information in order for it to be a legitimate entry. My offer still stands and if you want me to paste and clip the post from Find a Grave on their rules regarding this I will go there and get the information.
By the way Tom-there was no entry at that site for Donald Kerr until I entered it.He was best known as Hap Hapgood the reporter in the 1935 Flash Gordon Series and was a bit actor in over 300 movies.
Charles Middleton who was best known as Ming in the series did not have a decent photo of him until I photocopied an autographed photo from my collection and posted it there.No information on his wife until I entered it as well.Updated Jean Rogers (Dale Arden)
database,several of the other actors.No info on Yves Tanguy or his wife Kay Sage-surrealist artists until I did the research on it.Frank Shannon aka Zarkov.Jean Rice Burroughs daughter of Edgar Rice Burroughs and her husband James Pierce who portrayed the first Tarzan and also appeared in the Flash Gordon Series.There are lots of people not in there who need to be.So not blowing my horn so much as using this as an example that I am serious about posting any pet for anyone with tedious care for them if they need me to.

[moshev]

Here is the link to the Q&A page:
www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/faq.cgi?faqMode=non#15

The question and answer is #23 in the list from the top.

I am pasting the Q&A wording of that particular section:

Q. Can I add my pet?
A. Yes...When we say we want to list the burial locations of everyone, we're not kidding...pets are an important part of many of our lives and their deaths can be a great loss...

[Die Fledermaus]

>> the findagrave site allows pet interrments <<

I did not know that. Click on the 'Memorial Photo Gallery' link below in my signature and scroll down to the last photo - it is the location of where I bury my pets in a local cemetery, unmarked except for some cobblestones that only I know what they represent.

>> having my own sandblasting set up gives me a bit of an advantage in that area. <<

For sure! And having a farm does too. For me, the most secluded safe place I could find has been used (as described above).

>> I have made stones for snakes,parrots,even mules <<

Very sweet. I wonder where Barbaro is buried. We should check their site as they probably have it up by now.

>> f you want me to paste and clip the post from Find a Grave on their rules regarding this I will go there and get the information. <<

Please! I assume they want to see headstones, or does a mere site such as mine suffice?

>> Donald Kerr until I entered it.He was best known as Hap Hapgood the reporter in the 1935 Flash Gordon Series and was a bit actor in over 300 movies. <<

Here is what is likely an easy question for you: what was the most commonly played classical music (during dramatic scenes) in the 1930's Flash Gordon series?

So, those actors are NOT in findagrave?? I am surprised indeed. BTW, Frank Morgan is in Green-Wood along with his whole family. (I had a thing for Jean Rogers).

>> I am serious about posting any pet for anyone with tedious care for them if they need me to. <<

In due course, soon, I will make that a permanent sticky thread at the top of this forum. Thanks.

[Die Fledermaus]

>> Q. Can I add my pet?
A. Yes...When we say we want to list the burial locations of everyone, we're not kidding...pets are an important part of many of our lives and their deaths can be a great loss... <<

That is from your link, indeed so!

I am looking at the main page www.findagrave.com/ and wonder where I would go to find pet interments.

"Page Views Today: 726,485 ". Whoa! Man, this site is popular.

JEAN ROGERS

I see. No information available on burial. That surprises me.

You can see why I had a thing for her:

[moshev]

The alternative in blasting is if you can find a used dental blasting set up.Its just a small enclosed box and you put your hands in there through gloved inserts.Perfect for making palm sized rocks with names on them.You could use lettering from the Office Supply and the sandblast stencil to place on the rocks.Note:The lettering will be raised in 'intaglio' when done instead of the indented type (roto-gravure) as is on normal gravestones.
There were three or four scores of music that were played qute frequently on the Flash Gordon Episodes.Heinz Roemheld and Karl Hajos were the major contributors of scores.Being that there were three series put out on FG the popularity of each series had different theme songs that dominated each.Franz Waxman's 'Bride of Frankenstein' was the one I liked the best.
Well here is an extensive list below of the Music in case your interested.
Flash Gordon ( 1936 )

Musical excerpts used from the following Universal Pictures heard in Flash Gordon ( 1936 ).

Bombay Mail ( 1934 )
( Heinz Roemheld )

Destination Unknown ( 1933 )
( W. Franke Harling )

Flash Gordon ( 1936 )
( Clifford Vaughan )

The Black Cat ( 1934 )
( Heinz Roemheld )

The Invisible Man ( 1933 )
( Heinz Roemheld )

The Midnight Sun ( 1931, non-dialogue re-release )
( Bernhard Kaun )

The Raven ( 1935 )
( Clifford Vaughan )

The Werewolf of London ( 1935 )
( Karl Hajos )

The entire history for all the music is as follows:




The music for the Flash Gordon serials was primarily stock music from other films, with the exception of the main title to the first serial, they were virtually all originally composed for earlier Universal films.
Tarzan the Tiger 1929
White Hell of Pitz Palu 1929
Destination Unknown 1933
The Invisible Man 1933
The Black Cat 1934
Bombay Mail 1934
Great Expectations 1934
Great Impersonation 1935
The Bride of Frankenstein 1935
The Werewolf of London 1935
Dracula's Daughter 1936
Son of Frankenstein 1939
Sun Never Sets 1939
The Tower of London 1939

Music cue listings and composers for a chapter from each serial.

"Flash Gordon" Chapter 2
CUE SOURCE FILM COMPOSER


Main Title "Flash Gordon"
Flash Gordon Vaughan, Clifford
Narrative Flash Gordon Vaughan, Clifford
Fanfare Klatzkin, David
Lost Soul Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
First Sign Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
First Murder Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
the Menace Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
First Murder Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
Police Captain's Orders Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Chase Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Men Run Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Men Approach Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Shot Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Steps Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Shots Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Men Approach Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Shots Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Fire Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Main Title "The Invisible Man" Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
March Bombay #1 Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Xavier Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Main Title "Bombay Mail" Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
March Bombay #2 Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Main Title "The Invisible Man" The Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Lost Soul Bombay Mail Hajos, Karl
First Murder Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
March Bombay #1 Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Xavier Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
March Bombay #2 Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Main Title "Werewolf of London" Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
Appassionato Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
Appassionato Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
Finale Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
Orloff Midnight Sun Bernhard Kaun
Main Title "Flash Gordon" Flash Gordon Vaughan, Clifford


"Flash Gordon's Trip to Mars" Chapter 3
CUE SOURCE FILM COMPOSER

Main Title "Black Cat" Black Cat Roemheld, Heinz
Main Title "The Invisible Man" The Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Prowling Monster Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
Dance Macabre Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Prowling Monster Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
Cat Threat Black Cat Roemheld, Heinz
Dance Macabre Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Transylvania Dracula's Daughter Roemheld, Heinz
Sonata in B Minor Black Cat Lizst/Roemheld
Dance Macabre Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Dance Macabre (second half) Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Whistling Drunk Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Two Werewolfs Werewolf of London Hajos, Karl
Shirley's Theme #3 (finale) Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Crucifixion Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Main Title "The Invisible Man" The Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Pastorale Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Village Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Chase Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Main Title "The Invisible Man" The Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Pastorale Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Governor's March Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Bombay Tension Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Main Title "The Invisible Man" The Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Knife Scene Great Impersonation Vaughan, Clifford
March Bombay #1 Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Xavier Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Main Title "Bombay Mail" Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Knife Scene Vaughan, Clifford
Crucifixion Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Orgy of Spirits Classical A. lljinsky
Cat Love Theme Black Cat Roemheld, Heinz


"Flash Gordon Conquers the Universe" Chapter 2


CUE
SOURCE FILM COMPOSER

Les Preludes Classical Liszt
Crucifixion Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
War Sun Never Sets Skinner, Frank
War Sun Never Sets Skinner, Frank
Torture Scene Tower of London Skinner, Frank & Freed, Ralph
Anne Neville Montage Tower of London Skinner, Frank & Freed, Ralph
Main Title "The Invisible Man" The Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Les Preludes Classical Liszt, Franz
Main Title "The Invisible Man" The Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Main Title "The Invisible Man" The Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
War Sun Never Sets Skinner, Frank
Les Preludes Classical Liszt, Franz
Entrance of the Duchess Composer Unknown
Les Preludes Classical Liszt, Franz
Crucifixion Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Tribulation Perry, Sam A.
Les Preludes Classical Liszt
Main Title "The Invisible Man" The Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Anne Neville Montage Tower of London Skinner, Frank & Freed, Ralph
Main Title "The Invisible Man" The Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Les Preludes Classical Liszt
March of the Torches "original " White Hell of Pitz Palu Roemheld, Heinz
March of the Torches White Hell of Pitz Palu Roemheld, Heinz
War Sun Never Sets Skinner, Frank
Snowstorm White Hell of Pitz Palu Roemheld, Heinz
Snowstorm (repeat) White Hell of Pitz Palu Roemheld, Heinz
Erotic Theme White Hell of Pitz Palu Roemheld, Heinz
Main Title "The Invisible Man" The Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
War Sun Never Sets Skinner, Frank
Les Preludes Classical Liszt


Assorted Music Clips Used in the Series.

CUE
SOURCE FILM COMPOSER

Pretorius' Entrance Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
You Will Need a Coat Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
You Will Need a Coat Part b Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
March Bombay Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Oriental Dance Tarzan the Tiger Sam A. Perry
La Rhumba Charles Previn and Frank Skinner
Inspector Theme Bombay Mail Roemheld, Heinz
Adagio Dance The Raven Clifford Vaughan
Creation Excerpt Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Processional March Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Pastorale Excerpt Bride of Frankenstein Waxman "original"
Parsifal Excerpt Classical Richard Wagner
Village Festival
Scherzo White Hell of Pitz Palu Roemheld, Heinz
Les Preludes Passage Classical Liszt
Croydon Airport

Dracula's Daughter


Roemheld, Heinz
The Old Tale Werewolf of London Karl Hajos
Monster Breaks Out Bride of Frankenstein Waxman
Invisible Man Finale Invisible Man Roemheld, Heinz
Governor's March

Bombay Mail
Roemheld, Heinz

Music Credits

Classical


Movie Scores
Liszt Karl Hajos
Brahms Heinz Roemheld
Tchaikovsky W. Franke Harling
Richard Wagner Sam A. Perry
Franz Waxman
Clifford Vaughan

[Die Fledermaus]

>> Les Preludes Classical Liszt <<

Bingo! That is all I meant.

Thanks for all the info. I saw every episode when PBS long ago ran the "Flash Gordon" serial. No, I never saw the porno version - "Flesh Gordon"!

As for the Memorial, in several minutes I will put a sticky thread up at the top of this forum and will call it "VIRTUAL MEMORIALS FOR YOUR PET are available". I can alter that subject title if you wish. Please add a succinct summary of what can be done for owners of deceased pets. Sound good?

[moshev]

Anyone who wants me to create a virtual gravesite for their pet.You can furnish me with the information.DOB,DOD,Name,place of birth and burial,A photo of the pet and also a gravesite if desired,a brief bio on the pets history if desired. I will post it for you and then make the announcement in this forum and provide the link for those who want to stop by and leave flowers,etc.

Les Preludes Classical Liszt is what I thought you might have been referring to. I have an extensive collection of FG items and photographs.Yes I know what you mean about Jean Rogers.
Me too and about 20,000 other boys. Her real name was Eleanor Lovegren and I have done alot of research on her and not been able to locate her place of burial.
flashgordon.ws/ is another site I belong to.
My own site for all of it is: Flash Gordon Memorial Archive home.onemain.com/~flashgordon/

[Die Fledermaus]

Thanks for the info. Signe Hasso was a special favorite of mine, if you recall her.

As a cemetery afficiando, I can only suggest going to newspaper archives for obituary information. From there you can find out the church, if any, where her funeral service was held (if any), or the funeral parlor. You can try tracking down descendants, and checking hospitals.

This is all the NY Times had: an AP blurb.

>> Jean Rogers, Actress, 74

AP
Published: February 28, 1991

Jean Rogers, who co-starred in two "Flash Gordon" adventures and other serial films, died on Sunday. She was 74 years old.

Her original name was Eleanor Lovegren. She was born in Belmont, Mass., and moved to Hollywood after winning a high school beauty contest. She made her first picture, "Eight Girls in a Boat," in 1934.

Two years later, she appeared in "Flash Gordon" as Dale Arden opposite Buster Crabbe as Flash Gordon. She was also featured in two other popular serials, "The Adventures of Frank Merriwell" and "Ace Drummond."

Her screen credits included "Night Key," "Mysterious Crossing," "Hotel for Women" and "Dr. Kildare's Victory." Her last film, "The Second Woman," was made in 1951. <<

Sherman Oaks, California, have any newspapers you could check? That is where she died.

From IMDB:

>> Massachusetts-born Jean Rogers had hoped to study art in New York and Europe upon graduation from high school, but her plans changed when she won a national beauty contest in 1933 and was offered a contract by a Hollywood producer. She was soon signed by Warner Bros., and a year later jumped ship to Universal. She began appearing in several of the studios' serials, with 1936's "Flash Gordon" being her most fondly remembered role. Given her delicate blond beauty and the skimpy outfits she wore, it was no wonder she was lusted after so fiercely by archvillain Ming the Merciless (and most of the male audience). Universal took her out of the serial unit and put her in a string of B pictures. Unsatisfied with the way her career was going, and the fact that the studio refused to give her a raise, she left Universal for 20th Century Fox in 1939. Two years later the spunky Rogers left Fox for the same reasons she left Universal, and signed with MGM, where she found the treatment more to her liking. She walked off the Culver City lot in 1943 when studio boss Louis B. Mayer discovered that she planned to get married, and forbade her to do so. Althugh she freelanced over the next few years, nothing much really came of it, and after making "The Second Woman" in 1951, she retired to raise her family <<

Wikipedia:

>> Jean Rogers (born Eleanor Dorothy Lovegren on March 25, 1916 in Belmont, Massachusetts; died February 24, 1991 at age 74 in Sherman Oaks, California from complications of surgery) was an American actress. She won a national beauty contest in 1933 and was offered a contract by a Hollywood producer. Rogers got her biggest assignment when she played the role of Dale Arden in the first two Flash Gordon serials between 1936 and 1939. Buster Crabbe and Jean Rogers were perfectly cast as hero and heroine in the first serial (Planet Mongo), and Rogers' fragile beauty, long blonde hair, and revealing costume endeared her to thousands of moviegoers during the late 1930's. She was lusted after by "Ming the Merciless" (Charles B. Middleton) and most of the male audience as Flash Gordon rescued her from one life threatening situation after another in the serial. Rogers also competed with Priscilla Lawson (Princess Aura) for Flash Gordon's amorous attention in the first serial. Rogers and Lawson were two completely different character actresses. Jean Rogers was fragile, small-chested, diminutive and totally dependent on the all-powerful Flash Gordon for her survival. Lawson, on the other hand, was domineering, independent, voluptuous, well endowed, conniving, sly, and determined to take Flash for herself. The competition between the two women for Buster Crabbe's attention is one of the main highlights of the film. In the second Flash Gordon Serial (Trip to Mars), Jean Rogers sports a totally different look. She has dark hair and wears the same full length, modest costume in each episode. Rogers matured both physically and mentally after the first serial, and there are no sexual overtones in "Trip To Mars" as there were in "Planet Mongo."

As a teenager, Jean Rogers won a local beauty contest sponsored by Paramount Pictures, which helped launch a career in Hollywood. Rogers starred in a number of serials for Universal from 1935 to 1938, including Ace Drummond and Flash Gordon. Fearing that she was becoming a "serial queen," she asked the studio to allow her to do feature films, which they did. She eventually left Universal and started working for 20th Century Fox, and shortly before retiring in 1951, she moved on to working for MGM.

Rogers is said to have become an artist after retiring. Jean Rogers and Buster Crabbe were reunited in 1975, thirty-nine years after the first Flash Gordon serial was filmed in 1936. They met under less hostile and dangerous conditions the second time around. <<

You could try the Sherman Oaks Historical Society. Or more likely the L.A. H.S. as it is part of L.A.
www.lacityhistory.org/

There are a lot of options you could try. Contacting the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences is another: www.oscars.org/contact/index.html