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Post by Dezzi on Jun 4, 2008 2:24:39 GMT -4
Flower was what Bambi named the skunk in the Disney movie...
>>But I would like to have a (descented) skunk!<< So would I. I remember when I was about 10 I saw a show on them and tried to convince my parents to let me get one. (thankfully they didn't)
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Post by Hamsters82 on Jun 4, 2008 9:18:57 GMT -4
A cat, boy I hope this person isn't serious. Anyway to me, wild animals should stay as wild animals and not as pets.
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Jun 4, 2008 21:31:23 GMT -4
That is what some groups such as the HSUS say about ALL reptiles--none are domesticated so all should stay wild. Interesting topic for discussion.
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Post by Hamsters82 on Jun 4, 2008 23:38:46 GMT -4
Well some animals I think are fine as pets. But I meant like the coyotes, ocelots, skunks, etc should stay wild.
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Jun 5, 2008 1:03:17 GMT -4
What about a porcupine? ;D
Actually, the marginally wild critters I wonder about as pets. Can you think of examples? I will give two, according to NYC's legal code: ferrets and hedgehogs. Illegal in NYC. Dangerous? I don't know. Giuliani banned ferrets; maybe he got bitten as a child. *shrugs*
Any other examples? Maybe there are some cats. Cheetahs can be tamed.
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Post by glitchunter on Jun 5, 2008 8:55:53 GMT -4
ferrets came from polecats and were tamed 2500 years ago and won't even survive in the wild(the pet species, not black-footed and such)They have been domesticated so long that(I think) it is a different species. There is no reason for them to be illegal, and they will only bite humans if they've never been handled(but that is trainable within a few weeks) They do have musk glands, but most are already descented, and the surgery is easily obtainable if they arent
been doing ferret research lately;)
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Jun 5, 2008 12:50:57 GMT -4
And they are all weasels! Interesting stuff. Making hedgehogs illegal is whack. Prairie dogs are illegal here.
I once posted the NYC code for illegal animals. And here it is (partially)!
>> (1) All dogs other than domesticated dogs (Canis familiaris), including, but not limited to, wolf, fox, coyote, hyaena, dingo, jackal, dhole, fennec, raccoon dog, zorro, bush dog, aardwolf, cape hunting dog and any hybrid offspring of a wild dog and domesticated dog.
(2) All cats other than domesticated cats (Felis catus), including, but not limited to, lion, tiger, leopard, ocelot, jaguar, puma, panther, mountain lion, cheetah, wild cat, cougar, bobcat, lynx, serval, caracal, jaguarundi, margay and any hybrid offspring of a wild cat and domesticated cat.
(3) All bears, including polar, grizzly, brown and black bear.
(4) All fur bearing mammals of the family Mustelidae, including, but not limited to, weasel, marten, mink, badger, ermine, skunk, otter, pole cat, zorille, wolverine, stoat and ferret.
(5) All Procyonidae: All raccoon (eastern, desert, ring-tailed cat), kinkajou, cacomistle, cat-bear, panda and coatimundi.
(6) All carnivorous mammals of the family Viverridae, including, but not limited to, civet, mongoose, genet, binturong, fossa, linsang and suri- cate.
(7) All bats (Chiroptera).
(8) All non-human primates, including, but not limited to, monkey, ape, chimpanzee, gorilla and lemur.
(9) All squirrels (Sciuridae).
(10) Reptiles (Reptilia). All Helodermatidae (gila monster and Mexican beaded lizard); all front-fanged venomous snakes, even if devenomized, including, but not limited to, all Viperidae (viper, pit viper), all Elapidae (cobra, mamba, krait, coral snake), all Atractaspididae (African burrowing asp), all Hydrophiidae (sea snake), all Laticaudidae (sea krait); all venomous, mid-or rear-fanged, Duvernoy-glanded members of the family Colubridae, even if devenomized; any member, or hybrid offspring of the family Boidae, including, but not limited to, the common or green anaconda and yellow anaconda; any member of the family Pythonidae, including but not limited to the African rock python, Indian or Burmese python, Amethystine or scrub python; any member of the family Varanidae, including the white throated monitor, Bosc's or African savannah monitor, Komodo monitor or dragon, Nile monitor, crocodile monitor, water monitor, Bornean earless monitor; any member of the family Iguanidae, including the green or common iguana; any member of the family teiidae, including, but not limited to the golden, common, or black and white tegu; all members of the family Chelydridae, including snapping turtle and alligator snapping turtle; and all members of the order Crocodylia, including, but not limited to alligator, caiman and crocodile.
(11) Birds and Fowl (Aves): All predatory or large birds, including, but not limited to, eagle, hawk, falcon, owl, vulture, condor, emu, rhea and ostrich; roosters, geese, ducks and turkeys prohibited or otherwise regulated pursuant to ยง 161.19 of this Code, the Agriculture and Markets Law or applicable federal law.
(12) All venomous insects, including, but not limited to, bee, hornet and wasp.
(13) Arachnida and Chilopoda: All venomous spiders, including, but not limited to, tarantula, black widow and solifugid; scorpion; all venomous arthropods including, but not limited to, centipede.
(14) All large rodents (Rodentia), including, but not limited to, gopher, muskrat, paca, woodchuck, marmot, beaver, prairie dog, capybara, sewellel, viscacha, porcupine and hutia.
(15) All even-toed ungulates (Artiodactyla) including, but not limited to, deer, antelope, sheep, giraffe and hippopotamus.
(16) All odd-toed ungulates (Perissodactyla) other than domesticated horses (Equus caballus), including, but not limited to, zebra, rhinoceros and tapir.
(17) All marsupials, including, but not limited to, Tasmanian devil, dasyure, bandicoot, kangaroo, wallaby, opossum, wombat, koala bear, cuscus, numbat and pigmy, sugar and greater glider.
(18) Sea mammals (Cetacea, Pinnipedia and Sirenia), including, but not limited to, dolphin, whale, seal, sea lion and walrus.
(19) All elephants (Proboscides).
(20) All hyrax (Hyracoidea).
(21) All pangolin (Pholidota).
(22) All sloth and armadillo (Edentala).
(23) Insectivorous mammals (Insectivora): All aardvark (Tubulidentata), anteater, shrew, otter shrew, gymnure, desman, tenrec, mole and hedge hog.
(24) Gliding lemur (Dermoptera).
(c) In addition to domesticated dogs and cats, an animal may be kept, possessed, harbored or sold in the City of New York provided that possession of the animal is not otherwise prohibited by law, including federal, state and local laws regulating domestic animals and livestock or protecting wildlife and endangered species. Such animals include, but are not limited to, gerbil, hamster (Mesocricetus auratus), guinea pig, domesticated rabbit and fowl or small birds such as parakeet, parrot, canary and finch. <<
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Post by Dezzi on Jun 5, 2008 14:25:54 GMT -4
Aww, dang, I can't take my mongoose on a walk through Central Park. *eyeroll* Some of those laws are crazy. My friend would have to sell her farm to move there. She's got emus, chickens, turkeys, ducks, a ferret, honey bees, a tarantula (actually I think it died), goats, pigs, chickens, sheep... then again she lives on a hippie island where almost everything is legal.
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Post by hamwolf89 on Jun 5, 2008 14:27:58 GMT -4
I think you can keep any animal you would like, only as long as you can take care of its needs.
for example No Wolfs cause they need to be in packs, have territory achres wide, live prey.
No koala cause they need trees, right climate, food etc.
Though I don't mean get an animal...and give it the bare minimum an animal could ever get.
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