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Post by doomgerbiluk on Feb 5, 2005 9:56:08 GMT -4
Thought I'd let you know about my present breedign plans I have a pair, REW and spotted agouti, getitng on a bit now, just weaned their 8th litter. They produce agoutis and argentis.
I have a lovely black lad carrying c(chm) (USA c(b)) who came from Eddie Cope, paired with a pied argente (also carrying c(chm)) they give me cp agoutis, REW, agoutis and argente/topaz.
There's a lovely pied golden agouti who will be paired with the same black after the previous pairs next litter And my 3 and a half year old pied black is paired with a lovely slate, carring great modifying genes, in the hope they will produce well mottled/variegated gerbils.
My future breeding plans are to improve my argente lines, to continue to produce lovely pieds (very popular) and to produce mottleds up to the provisional (UK) standard. I also want to explore Cp so that I understand the effects of c(chm) better.
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Post by jeannie on Feb 5, 2005 10:24:41 GMT -4
Is the 3.5 year old the one you posted on petshub? Is he still sexually active? It seems that may be a good way to prolong a gerbil's life - to give him a young partner.
I've never bred, but I've noticed that male gerbils perk up when they get a young pup friend.
I like the pieds too.
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Feb 8, 2005 0:15:43 GMT -4
That's a gerbil? ;D All that genetics talk may as well be Greek to me. Ancient Greek!
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Post by silence on Mar 5, 2005 18:09:20 GMT -4
It is a pallid gerbil.
RE genetics, any gerbil breeder worth his salt should have a good knowledge of it.
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Post by doomgerbiluk on Mar 5, 2005 18:12:02 GMT -4
yes What we normally call gerbils are actually mini jirds that is a true gerbil........of the genus Gerbillus as opposed to MerionesI keep two Gerbillus species ....... perpallidus (the pallid gerbil) and amoenes (charming dipodil) That is a female pallid gerbil btw I now ahve baby pallids..my first Gerbillus litter no less!!
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Post by silence on Mar 5, 2005 18:24:10 GMT -4
Beautiful Pallid pups, its nice to see new gerbillus babies
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Mar 5, 2005 23:17:37 GMT -4
It is a pallid gerbil. RE genetics, any gerbil breeder worth his salt should have a good knowledge of it. Since there are so many abandoned animals needing homes I think breeding should be minimized. I do rescues, not breeding. I have seen pallids from a distance, but not up close like that. Pretty! I saw them at the Bronx Zoo and they sure seemed hyper.
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Post by silence on Mar 6, 2005 13:42:20 GMT -4
I wasn't promoting breeding or condemning it. I was merely commending doom on bothering to learn the genetics, since she is a breeder.
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Mar 6, 2005 20:53:41 GMT -4
Ah! Could someone someone give me a SIMPLE introduction to genetics, to get me started? It all looks so intricate. (Just for my curiosity).
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Post by jeannie on Mar 6, 2005 21:29:31 GMT -4
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Mar 6, 2005 22:59:33 GMT -4
Thanks. You have any other quirky obscure gerbil sites worthy of my interest? ;D Celtic Gerbils. Reminds me, I am off to the St Pat's Parade a week from Thursday. Love the bagpipes. Yes, this should do: >> Gerbil Genetics 101 - And it starts. This is an introduction to gerbil color genetics, covers the terms you should know, and briefly goes over how inheritance works. << "Inheritance"? I can pass on my "money" to them if I die?? (That was irony).
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Post by doomgerbiluk on Mar 7, 2005 16:56:44 GMT -4
lol tbh it is important to have some understanding I'm afraid I haven't had time to learn all the genes (hopefully oen day ) but I have enough idea to get by for now. My present project is to produce a really good mottled gerbil..I have one very close and hope to show him at Cardiff in April. This will an interesting show as it's Eddies first time judging .....must make sure there;s a good turn out for his first time ...wouldn't want him getting bored Anyway I'm putting my black from Eddie who carries c(chm) with a lovely pied agouti also carrying c(chm) and I'm very interested to see what pups result
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Post by jeannie on Mar 7, 2005 19:39:41 GMT -4
He's really pretty! I agree that breeders should definitely have an understanding of genetics, but I don't think that regular ol' pet owners really need to know about such things, unless they are interested in it for personal reasons. (Mendel probably would have loved to have gerbils as pets.) Whenever I call gerbils/hamsters by their real color names at the vet's office, they ask "what is that in layman's terms?" I invariably end up saying brown or cream or yellow....pied agouti definitely seemed too confusing for the receptionist to comprehend DF, the website I provided reminds me of health films they showed at school when I was a kid...
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Mar 7, 2005 19:48:20 GMT -4
"Pied agouti"? That seems mutually exclusive! That gerb above (what's the name?) appears to be dosing on the keyboard. I don't remember health films in school, which shows how memorable they were. Must have been bland x10. I do recall some faces with tertiary syphillis in college Hygiene. My father was big on booklets from the 1920's that advocated lots of cold showers for stimulated boys.
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Post by jeannie on Mar 7, 2005 19:57:05 GMT -4
Oh, my - I'm thinking more of the innocent health films made in the 50's
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