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Jan 25, 2004 16:33:14 GMT -4
Post by Kain on Jan 25, 2004 16:33:14 GMT -4
Are dates safe for Rats? I can't seem to find anything to say they are or not.
Thanks
Kane
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Jan 25, 2004 16:43:03 GMT -4
Post by adara on Jan 25, 2004 16:43:03 GMT -4
I would think so, but I wouldn't give them a lot.. a small piece would be ok, but a lot of it might give them the runs
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Jan 25, 2004 22:32:27 GMT -4
Post by Die Fledermaus on Jan 25, 2004 22:32:27 GMT -4
Oh, that kind of date. I thought you wanted to get some ratties fixed up. ;D
I love dates, but they are loaded with sugar. So I would never give more than just a little bit, and then without anything else filled with sugar, such as banana chips or fruits.
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Feb 15, 2004 12:08:06 GMT -4
Post by bigfatmommarat on Feb 15, 2004 12:08:06 GMT -4
BAD FOODS LIST (No dates are listed here)
This is by no means a comprehensive list regarding foods to avoid.
Carbonated beverages - rats cannot burp, so the gas can cause severe discomfort. (Many give small amounts w/o problems though.)
Citrus fruit for male rats - contains a substance called d-limonene which can cause a carcinogenic effect.
Raw tofu or meat - due to the threat of bacteria.
Raw sweet potatoes - contains compounds which are converted to cyanide in the stomach. Cooked are fine.
Potatoes with green skins (cooked or raw) - contain a toxin called solanine.
Raw dried legumes (including peanuts) - contain anti-nutrients that destroy vitamin A and enzymes needed to digest proteins and starches. Can also cause red blood cells to clump.
Spinach, beets, almonds, and Swiss chard - contain oxalates, which are toxins that bind up calcium. (Debbie D. recommends that they be limited, not eliminated from the diet.)
Sticky foods like peanut butter, some candy, and dried fruits - poses a choking hazard. Peanut butter can be "cut" with jam or honey to make it more liquid, and reduce the possibility of choking.
Wild insects - can carry internal parasites and diseases.
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Feb 15, 2004 22:51:48 GMT -4
Post by Die Fledermaus on Feb 15, 2004 22:51:48 GMT -4
Peanuts are in most every mix I buy. Or do you have some objection to roasted as opposed to raw peanuts?
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Feb 16, 2004 6:38:16 GMT -4
Post by adara on Feb 16, 2004 6:38:16 GMT -4
DF Peanuts are absolutely fine cooked [I've yet to find them any other way ] just not salted and not in excess as they are very fatty and have high protein so can cause skin complaints - my ratties love the occasional peanut
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Feb 16, 2004 8:08:25 GMT -4
Post by Die Fledermaus on Feb 16, 2004 8:08:25 GMT -4
Half the packages of peanuts at the corner green grocer are raw; the other roasted. (Roasting makes them more crispy). I have also heard of the bizarre practice in the U.S. South of boiling peanuts making them mushy. God knows why.
Anyway, I do know that roasted peanuts are not as good as raw for squirrels; some amino acids are changed or neutralized that the squirrels need. I forget the specifics, but you can find it on a squirrel site; it is a rather basic fact.
So I do not know why "cooked" (roasted?) peanuts would be best for rats. (?).
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Feb 16, 2004 12:53:48 GMT -4
Post by adara on Feb 16, 2004 12:53:48 GMT -4
I actually have no idea and I'm just basing it on things I've heard from people with more experience than me
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Feb 16, 2004 22:23:04 GMT -4
Post by Die Fledermaus on Feb 16, 2004 22:23:04 GMT -4
I try to feed squirrels raw peanuts, but it never seemed to matter with the gerbs and hams - roasted or raw.
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