Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever

[cognac]

After I came out of the room at the vets office with my dying little white dwarf hammie, I struck up a conversation with another client, who was trying to console me, as I waited for my bill to be processed. She informed me she had a NSDTR, one of the few purebred dogs I wouldn't mind owning. And her NSDTR was in her vehicle, she took me outside to meet him. Then she gave me her number so if I want information, I can get it from her. I'm sure no one really cares, but I was excited, who knows maybe you'll see someday on here I got a NSDTR puppy, if I ever do I'll make sure to post pics of one of the most adorable breeds out there.
Cognac

[Die Fledermaus]

Became a recognized breed only three years ago!

>> Many Tollers have a slightly sad or worried expression when they are not working. The moment the slightest indication is given that retrieving is required, they set themselves for springy action with an expression of intense concentration and excitement. The heavily feathered tail is held high in constant motion while working. <<


>> Temperament
The Toller is highly intelligent, alert, outgoing, and ready for action, though not to the point of nervousness or hyperactivity. He is affectionate and loving with family members and is good with children, showing patience. Some individuals may display reserved behavior in new situations, but this is not to be confused with shyness. Shyness in adult classes should be penalized. The Toller's strong retrieving desire coupled with his love of water, endurance and intense birdiness, is essential for his role as a tolling retriever. <<


So, what do you think?

[Die Fledermaus]

So sorry about your dwarf.

[cognac]

Thank you for your condolences. I've been researching the breed off and on for about a year. The breed has a similar temperment, and about the same size as my huskey lab cross. I think a NSDTR and Daisy would get along great together, and the NSDTR is such a handsome breed, in my opinion. I'm trying to wear my fiance down, I want one, and since we are moving back to NY, hopefully to more land and a larger house, I want another dog.
Cognac

[Die Fledermaus]

There is a dog somewhat similar to a Newfie, but I think it has some white in it (?). This is not yet a recognized AKC breed, although many think it should be. Do you recall the name of it?

I knew someone with a Newfie who lived in an apartment. they also had a small white cat the dog got along with nicely. I would come to the door. . . and this huge mountain of fur would stand up (and was taller than me, and I am 6' 1") and lick every inch of my face. I felt honored.

[cognac]

I think you may mean the Landseer. There is also the Great Pryrenese, those are all white. The Landseer is a Newfie, in some countries it is a separate breed. Some sites say it's slightly different from a Newfie, other sites are saying Landseer is a "colour". I guess it depends on the site and the country you live in, as to whether it's a breed or just a different colour.
Cognac

[Hamsters82]

Tollers are pretty dogs & the smallest of the Retrievers I've heard. My brother absolutly loves them & wants one someday. That's neat that you saw one, I've seen pics of them but not an actually Toller. They're very pretty!

Landeers are a part of the Newf like you said; to me though I consider them a separate breed. Mostly all dogs are pretty, except for the hairless breeds...no offense if any of you two like them.

[Die Fledermaus]

Landseers! Right.

So, what maks for a breed instead of just a breed with a different coloring??




How did this breed get developed?

The first Landseers came to Europe from Newfoundland approximately 200 years ago. British and French fishermen were fishing in front of the Newfoundland coast and brought those dogs with them. The fishermen began to sell the Landseers in England and they became very popular due to their friendly nature and unusual appearance. In fact, the fishermen imported so many dogs that Newfoundland ’s own population dropped down at the beginning of the 1800s.

In England the breed was having success till mid 1800s and it also became very famous outside England with the help of a famous painter called Sir Edwin Landseer. In 1837 he painted a famous picture “ The Distinguished Member Of The Human Society”. In that painting there is a giant black and white dog called Paul Pry. This dog has saved his master and people from drowning. After this people began to call this breed Landseer. Even nowadays the white and black dog with high legs and from Newfoundland is known as Landseer. The British exported lots of these dogs to the European continent, which was good because other breeds came fashionable in Britain and the Landseer population dropped down.

The first purebred Landseerlitter was registered in 1902 in “Newfoundländer –Klub fur den Kontinental”. It was the result of two dogs that were imported from Great Britain. Behind the sire there were 11 Landseer colored dogs in four generations. Later they crossbred those dogs with black Newfoundland dogs. That is probably because people did not know how colors inherit. It was not until in 1904 and 1905 breeders combined an unknown Landseer male and dogs from imported bloodlines from Great Britain and got purebred Landseer litters again. In continental Europe they began breeding mostly with imported dogs from the UK. For example, they combined some local black or black and white Newfoundland dogs. Perhaps they combined the imported dogs with some big white guarding shepherd dogs too.

Otto Walterspiel from Germany was a breeder who made tremendous work for the breed in his “von Schartenberg” kennel. Thanks to him this breed remained in Europe and in the whole world. In 1960 FCI (Federation Cynologique Internationale) accepted this white and black dog with high legs as a breed of it is own and since then these dogs have been called Landseer Europäischer Continental Type or just shortly Landseer.

The first two female Landseers were imported to Finland from Great Britain in 1977. Those dogs were registered as Newfoundland dogs in the UK. The Finnish Kennel Club registered these dogs as Landseers since their father was a Landseer called Lasso von der Weilerhöhe that had been imported from Germany to the UK. When the breeders had imported a couple of males they could begin the breeding. The first litter was registered on 16 February 1981. In year 1993 there was the biggest number of registered Landseers in Finland, 268 puppies! The lowest number was in 1999, only 124 puppies.

You can find Landseers all over North and Central Europe. The breeding (of this breed) is most active in Germany, Belgium, Holland and France. In Nordic countries this breed is not as popular except for in Finland.

In Finland Landseers are mostly companion dogs. The Landseer loves to swim and they have a clear idea that they have to rescue people from the water. That is why people have created water trial competitions which provide good exercise for these dogs. With Landseer you can also take part in working competitions.

The Finnish Landseer Club (or Suomen Landseeryhdistys ry in Finnish) was established on 16 October 1982. The amount of members varies from 450 to 500 members. Members choose the breeding committee every three years at the club’s general meeting. This committee is only for giving recommendations and advice. All the new puppies are registered in the Finnish Kennel Club.

[Hamsters82]

Interesting info. The Landseer came about by breeding Newfs with Great Pyrenees. They have webbed feet, like most dogs great with swimming. I've seen some jump out of helicopters to help people (well on tv I did).

I just consider them a separate breed b/c its in my dog books as a separate breed from the Newfie. They're pretty dogs. I wonder if one has ever been bred with a brown Newf. I guess it'd be a Landseer that was brown/white instead of the normal colors?.....

[Die Fledermaus]

>>I've seen some jump out of helicopters to help people <<


Sure they weren't pushed out? ;D Newfies, of course, love the water and love saving people. So, why not?

They used to be common on sailing ships in days past.

Ever hear of the Portuguese Water Dog (?), I think that's name? They supposedly also love the water and have hair instead of fur - a rarity among dogs. Supposedly that means they don't have to be trimmed or they don't shed or something different (?) that makes them desirable to certain people.

[Die Fledermaus]

BTW, what does "tolling" mean??

[Hamsters82]

Yes, the Portuguese Water Dog...another with the webbed feet. Yeah, I've heard they don't shed a lot & are great with people who have allergies. In the show ring though...ugly!!

Okay, I have to look in my dog book for that one b/c I plainly forget why they call them Tollers. Okay, this is what they say: Devolped to toll (or lure) ducks in, the dog plays and prances on the shore for a deceptive entertainment to attract the off-shore ducks. I hope that kinda made sense to you cause I kinda skipped around.

*Off topic; but from another forum this girl & I (house_hamster....seen her?) we've been talking a lot about dogs since we love 'em.*

What dogs do you like, DF & Cognac.....I mean like your faves...

[Die Fledermaus]

Oh, toll = lure.

I pretty much like all dogs except the hyper neurotic smaller dops, the kind that yap and yap alot. I don't need Jack Russells for example.

Nothing nicer than a Lab, although Weimeraners and Greyhounds have their special appeal, as do German Shephards.

Dog Racing is an abomination that should be banned, but it makes too much money for each state, so it won't be.

[Hamsters82]

Those are cool dogs! Yeah, JRT's also go after rodents, so I don't think anyone here would want that!

Greyhound racing is a shame, I've heard in some states it is banned! All we can do is write in I guess, b/c after the race the dogs are euthanized; thankfully Greyhound rescues are like right around the corner after the race!

[Die Fledermaus]

Greyhound racing certainly is legal in Florida where it makes a ton of money, and pays a lot of tax dollars to the state.

Greyhounds are couch potatoes and very calm nice house pets, despite people falsely thinking they need to run and run and have all this excess energy.