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Post by Die Fledermaus on Aug 1, 2010 21:11:25 GMT -4
I hope you saw the Puppies video in this forum right below this one. We have been waiting for you to ID the dogs. We think boxers. I saw a Chesp. Bay Ret. in front of my place several days ago! >>(pronounced shar-pla-NEE-natz)<< >>incorruptible<< Be a great trait for our politicians. Sounds like a perfect watchdog. The biggest difference between cats and dogs is the former hide from strangers; dogs do not! Wonder what year this photo is from. . . Wiki photos do not show up, and the link shows up broken, so paste in. >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SarplaninacWithSerbianMilitary.jpg<<
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Post by Hamsters82 on Aug 11, 2010 13:35:43 GMT -4
I couldn't log onto facebook to see the puppy video you were talking about; this week is the Taigan from Russia. They're said to be a good hunter, affectionate, and strong. This is them here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taigan
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Post by Hamsters82 on Aug 19, 2010 20:09:41 GMT -4
Well this week, if anyone's checking *shrugs*, the Arubian Cunucu Dog is up this week. He's from Aruba and is said to be a good hunter, is very fast, and a companion. Here's one site about them: www.arubiancunucudog.org/id1.html
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Aug 20, 2010 0:14:23 GMT -4
Maybe I can take a screen shot of that video of the puppies and post it that way. Later. . . Taigan--curious look. Nice, but rather composite being of parts of other dogs combined. Interesting story about the Norwegians. >>Well this week, if anyone's checking *shrugs*<< That's what I say about my photo galleries. But I get to all eventually. I need not tell you why my time is preoccupied these days. Which brings up an interesting point, I have no idea how many guests on this site check specific threads. BTW, I posted about Meet the Breeds coming back in October! ;D I assume you saw that. Great! << we now know that the Arubian Cunucu Dog is descended from the rare Iberian Hound that was introduced to Aruba by Portuguese slave traders in the 16th century. These sleek hunters were immediately adopted by the indigenous Arawak Indians and bred with the semi-domesticated feral dogs of the island. << Very interesting, and that explains their somewhat feral look. Aruba. Can't be many of them. Poor iguanas.
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Post by Hamsters82 on Aug 30, 2010 13:37:44 GMT -4
Phew, I saw that the first thread was 18pgs and we're getting close to that. I'm sort of getting tired of doing this so if you noticed I'm only doing interesting dogs or cute ones. If I kept going it'd be forever, I think I'd like to do horses next and maybe other animals after that. Anyway, let's continue. I posted about Meet the Breeds coming back in October! ^Yes I saw you posted that somewhere. I didn't have time to answer, but that seems very cool. I'm fine with not being able to go anymore, my allergies (despite Clarinex helping) would be through the roof. This week is the Braque d'Auvergne from France and they're said to be friendly, intelligent, and a good hunter. This is them here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braque_d%27Auvergne
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Post by Hamsters82 on Sept 6, 2010 10:47:15 GMT -4
Some have heard of this breed and others haven't. And while it's not too rare being on the AKC list, I still thought it was warranted that this dog would be this week's avatar because not many have heard of them. So this week is the Curly Coated Retriever and they're from England and are said to be boisterous, friendly, and active. This is them here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curly-Coated_Retriever
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Sept 8, 2010 19:39:42 GMT -4
>> I'm fine with not being able to go anymore, my allergies (despite Clarinex helping) would be through the roof.<<
A real shame, and ironic. One of our members here, a new one yet to post, Lissy, does a lot of cat rescue. She is very allergic, and needs shots ever week. You should get shots. I did for years, and it all eventually went away.
I find the rare breeds INTERESTING. Post as much as you can. Doing something similar for horses with be good, too.
Are these very rare breeds more prone to genetic problems??
The Braque has a great personality!
The CCR (not the singing group!), the brown version, I mistook for a Chesapeake Bay Retriever, one of whom, named Chessy, lives on this block. Any major difference between them?
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Post by Hamsters82 on Sept 9, 2010 18:52:48 GMT -4
A real shame, and ironic. ^Maybe one day I'll go when I'm free of allergies. If I can get used to dogs like Labs, Akitas, etc at Best Friends, I'm sure one day I'll be scott-free. Then, it's off to the dog show!!
I find the rare breeds INTERESTING. Post as much as you can. Doing something similar for horses with be good, too. ^That's why I love the rare dogs, they're not only cool to look at but finding out info on them is neat too. Oh I plan to with the horses as well.
Are these very rare breeds more prone to genetic problems?? ^As far as I know with some of them, no. Because they're not inbred as a lot of common dogs are. The Coton has virtually no genetic problems and it's becasue they're still a new dog. I'm guessing it's like that with many of the rare breeds. They say the Puli is rare, but I think something that isn't AKC registered is rarer.
Any major difference between them? ^The only difference I can tell between a Chessy and Curly Coated is their coloring. Also the eye coloring is different too, Chessy's normally have yellow eyes. I've never seen a Curly Coated with yellow eyes. There's probably other differences, but those are the ones I go by.
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Sept 16, 2010 15:40:10 GMT -4
The reason I asked about the genetic disorders with too much breeding is that this is what PETA would get exorcised about--alleged genetic defects. So perhaps they oppose all pure breed dog, maybe. But in most cases I assume there are none, and only in some cases are they an issue if breeding is abused. This was the issue I talked to the AKC president about in Feb of 2009 after the British Kennel Club, following a BBC documentary on this issue, required their breed clubs to restrain from certain exaggerated traits. The AKC president said he relies on the individual clubs. Most clubs membners said there was no problem; a few did. See the thread on this from Feb. 2009.
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Post by Hamsters82 on Sept 17, 2010 18:54:29 GMT -4
So perhaps they oppose all pure breed dog, maybe. ^In my personal opinion, PETA is a joke among animal organizations. They say the most ridiculous claims about animals that just leaves you saying, "What?" all the time. But in most cases I assume there are none, and only in some cases are they an issue if breeding is abused. ^My aunt is getting a new puppy soon and I was trying to stress to my mother to tell my aunt to make sure that breeder didn't over breed his dogs. With Luke's parents, they bred them, I think--now don't quote me on this, three or four times and then that breeding pair was finished. Some breeders breed their dogs so many times it's not only unfair for the mother, because female dogs go in heat a lot, but the puppies could be picking up anything. And no, I don't think there are much pure breeds out there...in the sense where they're really pure of any disease except for the rare breeds. required their breed clubs to restrain from certain exaggerated traits. ^That's good. You don't want too many faults in a dog. This week is the Dunker Dog from Norway and they're said to be trustworthy, reliable, and a good watchdog. For some reason, I like them. This is them here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunker
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Sept 19, 2010 19:39:09 GMT -4
Some stunts and gimmicks PETA does is to get attention. It is a technique to enhance publicity. But other stuff I am disturbed about, and am looking into it more. There are lots of sites and people (animal lovers) with issues with them. There were dog people I have met with issues re: the HSUS. Interesting what you said about breeding. No individual dog should be bred too much, QAND dogs with exaggerated traits should not be bred at all! That was the whole point of the British kennel Club. At the WKC some folks told me judges needed more experience to NOT reward excess traits, such as too much skin with a Shar Pei. The amount of individual dog breeding should be limited, as you said. But no trait that is unhealthy should be emphasized in breeding for breed characteristics. If you know what I mean. It is all a tricky issue. How much is TOO much?? The AKC relies on individual clubs. I wi ll be asking at Meet the Breeds, which is almost here! Dunker Dog: >>Occasionally, cases of hip dysplasia can occur.<< *Shrugs* PETA might say stop breeding this breed. My friend's GSD's anal fistulq is slightly better and was never as bad as those photos. Ugh. I would find it hard to be a vet and have to treat such things especially with the dog suffering. And what if they couldn't pay? I would let the dog suffer?? No, but that means I might go out of business.
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Post by Hamsters82 on Sept 19, 2010 21:11:23 GMT -4
Some stunts and gimmicks PETA does is to get attention. ^I get that, I do, but their other stuff is just odd. Like the time I heard where they said no one should have a pet. What? I heard that on the radio somewhere. dogs with exaggerated traits should not be bred at all! ^Exactly, unless there's some way they can be properly bred where the trait is gone. At the WKC some folks told me judges needed more experience to NOT reward excess traits, such as too much skin with a Shar Pei. ^I agree. People breed so the future owner wants that quality in a dog. Designer dogs is a good example, I think. They want a dog that doesn't shed as much, but has a personality of, say, a Lab. Badda bing, badda boom, you have the Labradoodle! Oh, now let's do a Golden or how about a GSD, or how about a...give me a break! There are enough shelter dogs as it is! We don't need to breed more dogs where thousands are dying in shelters everyday. Plus some of these breeds have to cost a good amount of money. If you know what I mean. ^I know exactly what you mean. How much is TOO much?? ^I would say around more than five times is too much to breed a dog. I mean the female dog has to get tired of always being pregnant and then giving birth, looking after the litter of what?...three...five....twelve? Then doing it all over again the next time she's in heat. Can we say not fair? *Shrugs* PETA might say stop breeding this breed. ^Yeah they might. But then you're taking away so many breeds as most big dogs get hip dysplasia. Great Danes, GSD, Goldens, Labs, Rotties, Dobies, Mastiffs, a lot get this. My friend's GSD's anal fistulq is slightly better and was never as bad as those photos. ^Aw, poor doggie. That's good that he's feeling slightly better. I would find it hard to be a vet and have to treat such things especially with the dog suffering. ^That's why I couldn't be a vet. I hate to see animals suffer. And what if they couldn't pay? I would let the dog suffer?? No, but that means I might go out of business. ^I hear some organizations let you bring your animal to their clinic and the vet will do surgery there, free of charge. But I've only seen it done a couple of times on the ASPCA shows on Animal Planet.
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Sept 19, 2010 23:40:55 GMT -4
>>How much is TOO much?? ^I would say around more than five times is too much to breed a dog.<<
I actually, again, mean the BREED, in terms of unique characteristics. At what point have they gone too far, such as bulldogs snouts which may effect breathing? Again, in Britain, it is the Kennel Club; here the individual clubs.What's best. . . I don't know.
Near the end of the last WKC, as i told you, two PETA people ran on the floor holding signs. I later found out they were from PETA and the signs said, and they said, "What about the shelter mutts?". I have no issue with that. More money should be contributed to that cause.
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Post by Hamsters82 on Sept 26, 2010 20:59:08 GMT -4
such as bulldogs snouts which may effect breathing? ^Also with bulldogs since their head is so big at birth, the mother always has to have a C section. Again, in Britain, it is the Kennel Club; here the individual clubs. ^There are a lot of clubs here. I know there's even a Coton club. I later found out they were from PETA and the signs said, and they said, "What about the shelter mutts?". ^Now that is okay to say. This week is the Griffon Nivernais from France and they're said to be not shy, loves their work, and are hardy dogs. This is them here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffon_Nivernais
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Post by Die Fledermaus on Sept 27, 2010 19:33:29 GMT -4
>>the mother always has to have a C section.<< Eww. >>a Coton club.<< Cotton Club>>The Griffon Nivernais was a breed kept by French noblemen which disappeared after the French Revolution. The breed was reconstructed beginning in 1925, by some hunters in Morvan, modeling on the ancient types that came to Europe with the Crusaders and the type called "Canes Segusii" or the Celtic Hound by early dog writers. . . << Interesting history, and interesting look!
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